LEELA MADHAV:
naa kodaka system lo loops vadukuntavv..malli pedda socialist laa act chestav....nuvvu pseudo socialist ra...nuvvu pedda tussu gadivi....

రవి తేజ:
system meeda nammakam lenappudu .... system ni enduku khatar cheyyali raA?
ee system evaru nannu saricheyyataniki....
system dani pani sarigga chesukokunda...andarini sarichestadi antey vinala?

LEELA MADHAV:
but u r using it ...u r using it instead of abandoning it....and u r saying u wont....but u r in....

రవి తేజ:
until a new system is developed, as an alternative, we cannot run away from the prevailing,

the alternative is developed out of criticism, against prevailing...

LEELA MADHAV:
and its funny u r talking about a hypothetical thing that really wont exist....any where ...so ppl who takes out advantage of the loops of the sys can dream about new sys....like the sys u mentioned who got no holes....u developed a very gud theory man...

రవి తేజ:
every system has come out of the previous so called loop holes, i feel. i can also say there cannot be a perfect system, but there can be implementation
every idea is a hyphotetical situation...
ideas with respect to the past, understanding the present, hoping the future is rational...
though it is hypothetical when it has good overlap of the first two parts of rationality it is the best possible
actions come out of criticism, criticism comes out of the present acts, present acts are of negative and positive of their own conscience....

when system is everything....why can one only think of the so called rightious path?

LEELA MADHAV:
ideas and actions shud be in same wavelength re...u cant dream a new system unless u put u r actions...and u say coz of sys u wont act untill a new sys comes...hilarious merry go round thing u r talking about...

రవి తేజ:
ideas and actions cannot be measured,

a small wave length such as two people marx and engels proposed marxism, when idea is considered,action is small,implementation is done later, where idea has a small place....

generally idea and implementation comes one after the other, other it may lead to situtaion as like that of naxal movement in ap, where they dont know which is going first

LEELA MADHAV:
and i dont like defending ..argue with gud reasoning ...so that it relates things

రవి తేజ:
arguement lies over defending....
otherwise argument cannot exist
other wise it leads to submission

LEELA MADHAV:
thats it..thats it...i got u....u r highly unsuccesful social scientist who used to say nothing is impossible....the non sense thing is u forgot the present....waits for slow evalution of sys out of critiscism....and in parallel put u r hand on practicality...ending in the faliure of experiment and messed up with policies and still says u r experimentalist(this also pseudo)

రవి తేజ:
every idea is experimentalism,
every system depends on existencialism

every experiment is a existence trial
sucess and failure depends on implementation and experiment...
it is irrational to think of hypothetical success or failure..

LEELA MADHAV:
thats it..thats it...i got u....u r highly unsuccesful social scientist who used to say nothing is impossible....the non sense thing is u forgot the present....waits for slow evalution of sys out of critiscism....and in parallel put u r hand on practicality...ending in the faliure of experiment and messed up with policies and still says u r experimentalist(this also pseudo)

రవి తేజ:
every experiment is a existence trial
sucess and failure depends on implementation and experiment...
it is irrational to think of hypothetical success or failure..


LEELA MADHAV:
u r rite.....we go from back side....
existence trail--->experiment--->??(take it as intermedaite,critisicim)--->system---->idea....
its the thing said by u....idea needs a trail to be checked....u need to act....but u r not...and i wonder...u r complaining and waiting for evolution.....its time to act ....not to be in barracks....so that system just evolves....it wil...may not be in indian scenario.....as many theories proved wrong in indian backdrop...

రవి తేజ:
sorry i propose is
criticism of present system--idea--experiment--criticism--idea;
its a continous process as long as member continues
trial of ideal system is not easy until you reinstate that in the place of this prevailing one...
and it is not also possible to destroy the prevailing one easily without ratification of the alternative through social means

LEELA MADHAV:
so ppl can do wat ever they want in this transition...and can blame sys ....its nt the thing...if u believe in evolution y dont i believe in sudden burst as it may be framed in indian backdrop....and its also an exp....y dont we try....implement all of a sudden....i just want ppl act...not sitting and writing principles....sounds like extremist...but may work....makke a trial run...

రవి తేజ:
even i support in this outlook, but this needs a lot of dedicated people, with power up in their arms and thoughts...who can be products only of a movement...
movements have to be developed first, then the extreme turn can be made...
in india it is evident only twice once in telangana movement and later in 1974 anti emergency and railwaystrike, both failed as a result of the system being more dedicated than those who are opposing it

LEELA MADHAV:
hahaha...funny to hear about arms....really.....u r handicapped.....u r.....still believing in armed revolution just to reply a extremist question....u r fail...and u wil be a fail...change u r thesis......restart thinking....u r not sticking to bascis....humans are first....humanism is our priority...if u forget this....u support will be less by one

రవి తేజ:
arms is not weapon i mean arm...no extraction of your own meanings please

and i dont believe in humanism...etc...
i dont mind loosing support... i mind loosing hope

LEELA MADHAV:
ok ra ...we discuss later.....hope u stick to bascis.....and please and please dont apply damn foreign thoughts over indian scenario.....plagiarism is highly punished

రవి తేజ:
what is plagiarism...?
dont behave as like a capitalist
fight for a free world....
prapancham evadi sottu kaadu...
samaja paristitlulu bati poraatalu...adi nijam andulo emi chestunnam anedi porade vadi istam

LEELA MADHAV:
so u need a free world......where the works got no rights and existence of corporations its self is base less...u r in fictious world....u r a wild dreamer.....but y world tending to these ideas...dont say whole world is insane....u r in righteous path.....and only feww are controlling world....

రవి తేజ:
if work has right confine it to the time, not hype...my dear
the fictious thing is that you believe in ever prevailing system of protection

LEELA MADHAV:
yess....dont say i lose the rite of my grandpa property.....automatically...its my grandpa rite to give the prperty to me...u cannt induge n say its time up...let others enjoy....kind of story relates u r defense

రవి తేజ:
this i have a situation where you are goingfeudal...for which i dont reason any argument

LEELA MADHAV:
hey dont say feudal....it hurts....i am talking in least terms....u r thoughts r in communist amplitude....they are fail.....practically in india....plz for godsake plzz...tailor made it for india...dont take as it is..any idea...create new ideas...a new sys...but stick to bascis...other wise u wil be a fail and left with only hope....

రవి తేజ:
because implementation failed in this process of making things